9-Ball
Topic: The 2007 UK 9 Ball Championship

Manchester United have got loads of money, but they don't give their shirts away at cost!

I need the website to provide some sort of income to help finance the costs of it's growth - and it IS growing (for some reason last month was a record month for unique visitors?).

Thanks VERY much for the enthusiastic vote of confidence for organising a tour, but apart from running the odd (good value) qualifier here and there, I don't want to pursue that any further at this stage. (I'm too busy for a start!)

I really hope the event does go ahead for you guys, and that it will be a great event, but most of all, I hope that the BPPPA can find some sponsorship and be able to get the pool scene back on track with some good and well organized events again

Willie

Why have we had no response on this topic from the BPPPA on this site or the BPPPA site????
The lack of communication from the powers that be has long gone beyond a joke!!!

one simple answer is for every player intending to play the next bppppppppppppppppppppppppppa event, would be to boycott the event in protest.

i bet that will draw a response,

it looks at the moment as if certain poeple would struggle to run a bath

ted,shir,widlo whoever else runs the bppppppppppppppppppppppppppppa, please take this as tonge in cheek coz i am keen to see the uk pool scene a force once again. and play more tournies

Shir does a great job running this bpppa event and has made it a far better run comp on the day, I think we need the answer from up above this is where the problem lies with them shir does her part to the full and is unfair to put her name in there with this problem. Personnally now I think the only answer is to run another tour (9-ball) and run it in line with what the palyers want (Mark Mills and Daryl peach would be perfect) they ran a great tour and also Mark ran a great Grand Masters.
I would urge all players to play on the BPPPA tour but not to pay the membership fees which are a laugh.....

Indie

Cant you just get the tour back on at cambridge - Lets face it, that was the best Tour in arguably one of the best clubs anywhere in the country when it was at its peak, you were getting close to 100 runners for a one day event which was crazy really, but its all gone to pot...

you should run a series of 5/6 events with a ranking system like you did before. 2 on 9-ball, 2 on 10-ball and 2 8-ball. Just say last sunday of every month (unless it clashes with ET & then switch to following week...)

Bingo....

Everyone loves the atmosphere at Mickeys, its difficult to get that at another club!

Lets stop slating our only tour, Im just as unhappy as the next pool player about it but whinging on forums like this aint gonna change anything?? if we want more Tournes then nobody is stopping anybody from running a tournement eh!! -

Someone once said "If you build it, they will come!"

Nuff said.

sort it, advertise it, run it, win it, n go home. Lovely drop! lol

yeah craig bang on

i hope i did not offend anyone coz i have respect for all those that have an influence on the bpppa and i really want to start playing them tournies again, miss the the weekends away

as far as mickeys goes im lining up a tour for next year which will be rankings, and will also pinch boyzones idea and run a pro and an amateur comp the same weekend

I think the correct way to discuss these things is via the BPPPA players council, which IMO, should operate independantly of the BPPPA. The problem we've had recently is that the players council chairman who would organise the meetings, set the agenda etc. has not been active in the BPPPA for some time now so we need a new chairperson. As much as I'd like to volunteer i really can't spare the time right now as I'm in the middle of a house sale / purchase and have many other things on.

I know that many of you have very valid concerns about the running of American Pool in this country and really these need to be discussed with Ted face to face. Whilst, Ted is clearly not going to stand in front of 100 people and let you all moan at him he will address the half dozen people from the players council. That's why we need to make best use of this facility to try and engineer the changes we all want to see. I know the players council is not at all effective right now, probably due to the Chairman situation as I mentioned, but it's up to the rest of us to make sure we make it work.

I would welcome an email from anyone who has constructive criticism, suggestions, questions etc. that I can take to the next meeting. The email address to use (disguised) is playerscouncil at rigbys dot biz.

Its not criticism or suggestions that I want to make..
I just want upto date information on so called planned EVENT!!!

this is the problem riggers no one being active, players would like some answers right now not after the next meeting.

what happened to the minutes from the last meeting that were supposed to be published.

the thing is the whole situation is a complete JOKE

except no one is laughing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I know people are not happy but I still believe the only way forward is with a planned, professional and coordinated response from the players i.e. BPPPA members and that takes time to arrange and prepare.

Spouting off on here is all very well but i know that just takes a few seconds of peoples time and it helps them get things off their chest but it does not help anything get done.

If anyone contacts me (not via Pro9!) as a players council representative with constructive / sensible comments, criticism, suggestions or questions I WILL ensure they are heard and I WILL push for a satisfactory response from the BPPPA.

I have to say this thread cracks me up. Everyone just goes round & round in circles moaning about the BPPPA & how they see no money for their membership etc etc.

Dont pay it then! I remember Ted writing a big long email when the fees were due a while back saying the future's bright etc etc.

The same email advised something along the lines of "Although this should not be seen as us dangling a carrot, we have planned a UK 9-Ball Championship & this is confirmed & booked".

Sorry but if you're not dangling a carrot then dont mention it at all. You clearly are dangling a carrot hence going on about the event, and how only players ranked in the top 16 will get entry (ie you need to pay your membership).

Then oooh shock horror its not happening after everyone has coughed up membership. IMO the BPPPA are guilty of stringing people along time and time again.

And the best solution is.....wait for it.....call a players council meeting. Oh yeah, cause this always works doesnt it. The same rubbish solutions come up ever yr & nothing ever comes of it. Why people bother going to the BPPPA I have no idea.

Im sorry but someone needs to organise a tour thats cash only, no promises of ranking points etc & just get on with it. Rankings are irrelevant in the UK so why bother.

Great post Rocky, very constructive. Why sit on the fence pal, tell us how you REALLY feel!!!

Everyone on this forum is in agreement that things need to change, some of us are trying to see this into fruition, some still seem pre-occupied with ripping it to pieces, I wonder which one you are? If you feel so strongly about this subject, why not help to resolve it? Drop me or Riggers (or any member of the council) a note with some CONSTRUCTIVE thoughts.

That's a nice simplistic view Rocky. The reality is some people do care about ranking points and more importantly many people understand that you need to be a member of an effective national federation for UK pool to progress on the european and world stage. That's why it's important that we make our views known in the right way and try to effect change. If the players council meetings achieved nothing in the past then I challenge a BPPPA member to put their name forward and volunteer to become a players council member / chair person and make it their business to improve things.

I think you'll find that Mike Rogers was happy to volunteer with the players council & he made that known publicly on this forum.

Until people know why they pay a membership fee, where it goes & dont get various promises delivered, you will never stop these kind of threads appearing. The underlying theme of this ongoing row will not go away until questions are answered and they never are answered.

If you're on the players council do you get any help with travel expenses getting to a from the meetings?

I'm guessing they're all held in Manchester.

On 2007-06-04 13:07 , Pool-Ace Wrote:
The meetings will normally be held at events and there are some events coming up that are not in Manchester. However, I don't think you receive any expenses. That doesn't stop you contributing by making your views known to an existing players council rep prior to the next meeting.

"I think the correct way to discuss these things is via the BPPPA players council, which IMO, should operate independantly of the BPPPA. The problem we've had recently is that the players council chairman who would organise the meetings, set the agenda etc. has not been active in the BPPPA for some time now"

Lee

Whilst i agree there is no sense in a public witch hunt and that the players council is the vehicle to express official concern, i think its only fair to mention this.

The BPPPA is a registered business, with nominated Directors. Any business normally taking this much flack would normally do one of two things, 1, go on a charm ofensive - give as much info as possible, start generating huge goodwill incentives and become accessable and accountable openly - thus ensuring it saves its "customers" or 2, Fold.

The reason there is so much banter on here is lack of communication. The minutes from the last meeting back in January are still not publishied, the website still not up to date and the membership "packs" which came out several months late were pathetic. mine included a certificate (woohoo) a contact list and an incomplete calender of events. If it had not been for Shir stepping in to do the event organising on the day the entire package would be a shambles.

Why (and i know he does cus i asked him direct) does Ted when reading these threads no post one response.

I believe the future of the BPPPA is at a critical point and when the next good tour idea comes along many will jump ship.

I am all for promoting and backing the BPPPA if the management structure supports itself and all its "customers" professionally.

I would be prepared to stand and represent at the players council - no ex's - but i doubt i would be elected as i would not pull any punches.

Lee, Si, Shir and all others who help Ted. Dont take these comments from other players personnally. This should only be seen as business. I'm sure other entrepeneurs ( i mention no name) will not miss an opportunity to create what is desired.

I for one will not attend another event until such issues are resolved. i will not wate my money. If i want to play good players i'll just pm them.

Tony Weafer

On 2007-06-04 13:55 , BigTone Wrote:
The only issues you mention are:
- lack of publication of meeting minutes from January
- web site not up to date
- membership packs insufficient

So if these 3 things are resolved you will attend another event? If not what other issues need to be resolved? Rather than reply here why not contact a players council representative with constructive comments so action can be taken. Like I said, general moaning doesn't help but specific constructive comments through the correct channels will help.