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Topic: World Cup of Pool 2007

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its not really about me but yes am dissapointed i didnt make the team as will raj,jonni,mark etc will be only natural!!

but my point is how do they pick the team whats the criteria as i want to make sure i give myself the best chance in future events to play matchroom events as thats why am traveling around world playing in the best tournaments,ie ipt,world 9ball,world 8ball,bca 9ball champs,world 10ball,derby city classic,other events in america,euro tours etc and playing loads of top quality players for money! to give myself the best chance and to improve my game and to play against best players in the world which i have been doing for 12months!! obviously i think doing these things have probably gone against me a little bit as it seems euro tour more important to gain entry into matchroom events and i missed lot of euro tour events last year because spent lot of time in america and philippines!! but the 5 events have played in last 18 months euro tour have done well!

tv ,fan base,well known you say well my opinion thats untrue only people with real fan base is efren and busta and the tiawans maybe americans at push away from pool public!

if so why marcus chamat not playing then is a big hit in the pool world terms?

in 9ball in uk yes there probably more well known they been playing longer than me but overall pool in general uk then its prob me as english pool much bigger than uk 9ball pool in uk

but america and asia etc i beg to differ,

raj is the most well known uk player in the pool world coz he travels the world playing and does well!! and thats what have been doing for 12 months! and we both done pretty good!!

darly and imran stick to events in europe with exception of world 9ball ,and ipt when was about!! but thats fine thats there choice and they done well!!

i got no problem with daryl and imran good luck to them like i said before!! its a good team!

all i want to know whats the best way of getting yourself into the hat!!

everyone entitled to there opinion and thats mine basically!!

Get tae bed Darren! Look at the time!

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On 2007-08-08 01:36 , dynamitedaz Wrote:

Isn't this the biggest problem for this sport in general? So many events and tours but no solid structure for qualifying into such serious events as the World cup!

Without any intention of questioning the ability of the chosen players I think that there are quite a few people around Europe who are dissappointed.
Unless there are calendars and qualification routes clearly defined for every high profile tournament (especially if it's called World Cup of pool) the sport will struggle to get anymore publicity than it already has. That's just my opinion.

Anyway good luck to Pat and Michael. (I have to support Scotland as Greece doesn't get the chance to play!)

chamat told me last year sweden was seeded no 6 now this year dont play?



achilch
agree it would be awesome to represent your country in world cup with such good money at stake and the prestige, hence why am keen to know how the teams are picked and whats the best road to go down!!

i think theres many teams that could be stronger some of the teams am amazed at! and shocked why some countries are not in it!!

but matchroom must have there reasons and people are always going to be left dissapointed and theres always going to be surprises like some of the teams we can see on the list!

Totaly agree with you Daz. The same discussions took place last year in Scotland and I suppose same happened elsewhere. This could be a good chance to establish national qualifying critiria for such occasions.

As far as Greece is concerned:
I'd love to see John Vassalos (last eurotour winner) and Damoulakis (european bronze 8ball) play for Greece for example and I know that if this happened there would be good tv coverage and interviews that would help extending the fanbase in the country.

If you don't get a chance to be in the big ones then why bother playing at all? Even in football where giants like ManU, Real Madrid, Barca etc dominate the game there's the theoretical opportunity for teams from Lichtenstein Malta or Faroe Islands, with budgets lower than you can imagine, to qualify for the Champions League and win it. How can there be a World Cup of Pool when not everyone gets a chance to play in?

In anycase though I think it's a really nice event and I am sure it will be good to watch.

you are on the money mate one of the most sensible and best posts have ever read on this website!

absolutley spot on!

we all should be giving a chance

why havent sweden,greece,ireland,wales ,norway,etc been giving a chance to compete! just doesnt make sense to me

i look at usa team i think wow rodney morris played bad for 12 months then you have shane van boeing who got to 3 major finals on spin plus world 10ball champion john shmitd us open champion plus other good events, jonny archer, philippines ronnie alcano world champion,souquet, there must be so many puzzled by it all! jason shaw scottish player did well us open,ipt does well in scotland great talent! thorston hohman european 9ball champion! jonni fulcher either represent swiss or england am sure lot of teams and players are scratching there heads!

there must be so many disapointed players who havent made the team knowing they have had a better year or better player than the player(s) in the team,and also countries not even in the event!!

Taking a quick look at the Eurotour rankings it seems clear that in the case of Europe, these have been used to select the teams.
Ortmann and Reimering are the two top Germans,
Feijen and Van den Berg are the two top Dutchmen,
Peach and Majid are the two top Brits (sorry Jonni)
Petroni and Muratore are the two top Italians, Alcaide and Fazanes are the two top Spaniards. etc etc.
This seems to be a reasonable way of picking teams since there is no other international ranking sytem that includes all the European players.
So there you are, if you want to play in this event, you need to be ranked the highest on he Eurotour.

What about Scotland then? They aren't even playing on the eurotour...

It's a shame that a sanctioned tournament doesn't provide all countries the same oppurtunity to qualify. I thought the mainpurpose of sanctioning tournaments by WPA/EPBF is to get "control" for the best for all players.

This is a complete joke.

There should be a qualification system for countries, and then the countries should be able to pick the players to represent them.

The same with other Matchroom events. How to qualify for World Pool Masters, or World Pool League? Players should know how to qualify so they can make their schedule early in the year.

I couldnt believe they left out theWest Indies as well...


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Maybe this is something that could be looked at when the new GB tour gets up and running. Then could you not pick the representatives with the help of players in this country?? I know they have to sell it to TV and everything. But for example if you had 2 spots open for the GB Team, could you not combine, rankings (Which I am sure will mean a lot more now) professional opinion, and general common sense.

Surely it should be exactly like the world cup?? With so many countries so close could you not do it exactly like the World cup of Football? So you have qualifiers which means every team could have representation, and have the chance to represent their country on the world stage? and if they were to do the tournament every 2 years, then the year in between could go to providing the qualifiers, thus getting a much more rounded entry system?? I know the setup of it would be quite staggering, but if you had qualifiers on different dates, then you could have a 'squad' as not everyone could get to every qualifier. giving people the chance to prove their worth.

I dont know if this ramble makes sense but this could be another incentive for the GB tour? Lots of players like myself know that they almost definately wont get anywhere near selection, but its something extra to fight for, and isnt that why the tour is being set up? To raise the profile and standard of British Pool??

If this is a useless then Dave please delete it, but Id like to know what everyone thinks.

Just as a side note, if there is a World Cup, is there a Euro equivalent?? and if not, why not? The more events that we can all be involved in the better.

Ok, im going to breathe now.

The EPBF will not allow the GB9BT to do this. Euro Tour Rules OK!

ooops, ok, sorry Doug

Doug's right. The GB9BT will be affiliated to the BPPPA, our national governing body, which in turn is affiliated to the EPBF, WPA etc. If Matchroom decides to award spots via the EPBF it's likely the EPBF will offer them to the BPPPA, then through our affiliation with the BPPPA I would hope they would offer them directly to GB9BT or at least use the GB9BT rankings as a means of selection.

Don’t hold your breath, Lee.

The UK players have, to all intents and purposes, been disenfranchised from international spots. Euro Tour is the governing factor in selecting players for major events.
This is scandalous when individual countries are running their own tours and creating opportunities in their domestic markets. The UK has always had a strong competition structure at all variations of pool (Pro 9 Ball Tour, BPPPA and now the GB9BT) but their growth has always been suppressed by European entities.

We managed to preserve our pound and our pint but not our pool.

Other continental federations are not this oppresive. Taiwan and Japan are members of the APBU but still use their national rankings to select players.
In most European countries there is not enough going on to matter and Euro Tour provides a platform for their players to perform. But the UK tournament scene needs an incentive to succeed and there is not one.

When the World 9 Ball Championship was based in the UK we really did have too many spots. But I grabbed them when I could and nearly 100 British players have taken part in the WC. Now we have none of our own.
Curiously, the Scots still had a qualifying spot last year.

At the last count there were 194 countries in the World!!!!

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