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bruno Home away from home Joined: 14-Mar-2006 Posts: 673 From: Aberdeen, Scotland	Posted: 2007-07-04 22:09 Couldnt make it myself (working again), but I'm told there was a great turnout (over 60 players) A lot of 8 ballers, plus a few lads from Sunderland (these guys are coming to our tournaments quite regular, which is great), plus Paddy of course. No Pat Holtz or Mike Valentine, so thats maybe the reason for the big turnout....maybe the players thought they would be in with a better chance LOL Profile Quote
sneakypete Just can't stay away Joined: 08-Mar-2007 Posts: 141	Posted: 2007-07-05 15:31 On 2007-07-03 17:51 , TheWizard Wrote: !!! QUOTE !!! I understand what you're saying, then in that case, hold that qualifier in Barnsley and hold the finals in Stretford, but no matter how you do it, you can't have a qualifier in the same location as the final, because the players who get through, will have a slight advantage over the rest of the field, because they will have already been acustomed to the tables in that location, whereas if you have the finals on a neutral venue, it takes away any chances of unfair advantages and keeps the tournament interesting I have noticed though, you haven't mentioned if it would be a 9ball, 10ball, 8ball, etc, if you mentioned this, then you would have a more detailed response, from various players, a 2 day event, of either 9ball or 10ball, with a shot clock, that way you can have matches timed, round robin groups on Sat and single elim on the Sunday, at least this way, it allows the players to get a proper rest to play again the following day, therefore keeping the standard of play as good as you can possibly get No matter how you look at it, there are many ways that you could set up a tournament, it's down to what the tournament director and the players can agree on Willie I agree that the final day should be in a different club as to the qualifiers even though other comps around the globe do hold qualifiers in the same club as the final day. I want to hold all disciplines maybe even a 1 pocket event,i think this will be good for british players cause even if we are good at 8,9 ball i still think there is room for improvent.A lot of players don't even know the rules of 14:1 let alone play it. What i don't get even if there are way more 9ball events is that i've not come across a 14:1 event in this country,we do still have world championships to attend in this discipline,and European champ for that matter. Profile Quote
TheWizard Home away from home Joined: 18-Mar-2006 Posts: 823	Posted: 2007-07-05 15:56 I agree wholeheartedly with you SP, in fact, I'm glad that you mentioned one pocket and Straight Pool, because my original suggestion, was to have an All Around event, like they do in the DCC and in the EC Team events, but instead of 8Ball, 9Ball and 14-1, i was thinking more along the line of 10ball, One Pocket or 9ball Banks, and 14-1 The reason for 10ball, instead of 9ball, is because it's a little tougher to get a ball on the break, One Pocket or 15ball Banks, and 14-1, is because I feel, that these disciplines are the toughest games to play, where the real abilities of a pool player, are really tested, not just in playability, but also in knowledge, concentration and consistency , and if there's ever going to be a really good tournament set up, then it should be a tournament to make every pool player raise their game, after all, they will be much better players for it What are your thoughts on this, SP? Willie Profile Quote
sneakypete Just can't stay away Joined: 08-Mar-2007 Posts: 141	Posted: 2007-07-05 16:17 On 2007-07-05 15:56 , TheWizard Wrote: !!! QUOTE !!! I agree wholeheartedly with you SP, in fact, I'm glad that you mentioned one pocket and Straight Pool, because my original suggestion, was to have an All Around event, like they do in the DCC and in the EC Team events, but instead of 8Ball, 9Ball and 14-1, i was thinking more along the line of 10ball, One Pocket or 9ball Banks, and 14-1 The reason for 10ball, instead of 9ball, is because it's a little tougher to get a ball on the break, One Pocket or 15ball Banks, and 14-1, is because I feel, that these disciplines are the toughest games to play, where the real abilities of a pool player, are really tested, not just in playability, but also in knowledge, concentration and consistency , and if there's ever going to be a really good tournament set up, then it should be a tournament to make every pool player raise their game, after all, they will be much better players for it What are your thoughts on this, SP? Willie I agree m8 if you don't try different things or experiment you will be stuck to a certain degree.Look at rotation for example this game which is very popular in the philipineswith this game you get all the aspects of pool not just potting and the occasional safe,bank or kick.It's pact with combo's,billiards kicks and banks,maybe that's why those Philipines are as good as they are. An all round event would be nice Willie but it will take more than 2 days to run this event.The comp your on about takes 1 week i think but then again i won't be getting that many entries so who knows. I agree with the 10 versus 9ball were it is hard to get a ball on the 10 ball break your probarly best of playing a defensive break,i don't think there is that much difference in the 2 games other than that. 9ball banks is game that i personally love not only has it helped me out in my 8.9 ball games were you can just bank yourself out of trouble it's also shown me which balls can be banked and which cannot.I was suprised with certain balls that you think are unable to bank that were. Profile Quote
TheWizard Home away from home Joined: 18-Mar-2006 Posts: 823	Posted: 2007-07-05 16:25 I know what you mean about the time scale needed for an all around tournament like that,which is why I didn't suggest it in the first place I agree wholeheartedly on 9ball banks, but one pocket, full rack banks and straight pool, and rotation are undoubtedly the best games to play I agree thought that we definitely need more disciplines in tournaments, instead of the same ol' 8ball, 9ball and 10ball malarky, after a while, it's easy to get fed up with it, which I have found on quite a few number of occasions. Willie ----------------- If ya got 'em, smoke 'em [ This message was edited by: TheWizard on 2007-07-05 16:26 ] Profile Quote
sneakypete Just can't stay away Joined: 08-Mar-2007 Posts: 141	Posted: 2007-07-06 14:34 I take it you been playing for a long time then Willie.What is your favourite game m8. Profile Quote
TheWizard Home away from home Joined: 18-Mar-2006 Posts: 823	Posted: 2007-07-06 15:28 Yeah, I've been playing for about 22 years now and completely self taught (I started young and I've just learned as I went along) I personally prefer Banks (9 or 15ball), One Pocket, Straight Pool, Honolulu, (Like bank pool, but all shots must be a kick shot and no close rail kicks are allowed), Cowboy, Cribbage and Rotation, as I feel, that they're the best pool games out there for increasing a player's all round ability, 9ball is a great and fun game to play, but it's not even close to being a true and proper test of a player's abilities, all you're doing is "Connecting the dots" and that is boring, as it takes the challenge out of the game, at least for me anyway Willie Profile Quote
The_Teach Home away from home Joined: 15-Mar-2006 Posts: 184	Posted: 2007-07-06 16:05 Trouble with the games you mention above Willie is that they are not accessible to the masses, both in terms of players and in terms of the media. If I was a media mogul I would choose 9-ball everytime just because it is so quick. The average person watching does not understand the intricacy anyway. I don't agree with playing a defensive break in 10-ball either. It is more difficult to make a ball but you just need to hit them harder! Profile Quote
TheWizard Home away from home Joined: 18-Mar-2006 Posts: 823	Posted: 2007-07-06 16:29 Fair point and I agree to an extent There is a little more to the 10ball break, than just hitting them harder, like the break in 9ball, you gotta try breaking from various positions behind the string, untill you can find a spot, where you're able to get a ball or 2 on the snap , it's just a matter of practice and patience There's no reason why we couldn't have a 9ball banks tournament, it's an easy to follow game, and I would like to think that, many of the competeing players in the UK, would be able to learn the rules of that game easily enough Willie Profile Quote

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