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posticon   Posted: 2006-12-18 18:14

The casino also has the ability to have upto 45 touchscreen computers, all with access to the internet in the huge lounge area. (possible to have BetAndWin eurotour odds as the homepage).

Something good for the spectators, who are naturally coming to the venue to gamble anyway.



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posticon   Posted: 2006-12-18 18:16

That's not a bad thought Danny :), it is worth chatting to Ted about it, but to be honest, I honestly think that there would be a few tours here that would all be trying to have the chance to be the ones to hold a UK Euro Tour event, but also, a tournament has to have I think it's something like e10K added to have a Euro Tour event :), but don't quote me on that because I don't really follow the ET that much :)

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posticon   Posted: 2006-12-18 18:17

I think some of you misunderstand a little regarding the Eurotour and what EPBF is supposed to do...

The Eurotour is organized where there is local people willing to pay the costs for hosting the tournament.

The EPBF did an Eurotour for women at my poolhall in Oslo, and they meant that the venue was great for an Eurotour for men too, and that we should apply for it. But since it would cost me 7000 € to the EPBF to host a Eurotour I told them that I would rather organize my own events and work for free during those tournaments, instead of paying the EPBF to work.

So it's quite simple, if there is someone in the UK willing to pay the price and have a decent venue, there will be a Eurotour in UK...

However, it is NOT the EPBF who is supposed to work for pool in the UK, Norway, Denmark, Germany or what so ever. It is the national federations.

After what I have understood, UK has a major problem since you are having so many different boards.

I know that most countries have one federation that does all the work, and doesn't need to cooperate with any other nationals.

For example in Norway we have the Norwegian Pool Federation, and we are just now working with the calendar for next year, which will consist of 8-ball, 9-ball, 14-1, snooker, womens division, seniors tournaments and juniors tournaement.

With a similar system in England and all the talent you've got over there I think you all would be dangerous on the Eurotour, EC and WC.


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posticon   Posted: 2006-12-18 18:23

On 2006-12-18 18:17 , RugRat Wrote:

!!! QUOTE !!!

I think some of you misunderstand a little regarding the Eurotour and what EPBF is supposed to do...

The Eurotour is organized where there is local people willing to pay the costs for hosting the tournament.

The EPBF did an Eurotour for women at my poolhall in Oslo, and they meant that the venue was great for an Eurotour for men too, and that we would apply for it. But since it would cost me 7000 € to the EPBF to host a Eurotour I told them that I would rather organize my own events and work for free during those tournaments.

So it's quite simple, if there is someone in the UK willing to pay the price and have a decent venue, there will be a Eurotour in UK...

However, it is NOT the EPBF who is supposed to work for pool in the UK, Norway, Denmark, Germany or what so ever. It is the national federations.

After what I have understood, UK has a major problems since you are having so many different boards.

I know that most countries have one federation that does all the work, and doesn't need to cooperate with any other nationals.

For example in Norway we have the Norwegian Pool Federation, and we are just now working with the calendar for next year, which will consist of 8-ball, 9-ball, 14-1, snooker, womens division, seniors tournaments and juniors tournaement.

With a similar system in England and all the talent you've got over there I think you all would be dangerous on the Eurotour, EC and WC.



Hey RugRat :), that's exactly what I had been saying in my initial post in this thread :)

Untill that problem is sorted out and the promoters and players, stop the bullsh*te of creating new tours, then the problems will only continue to get worse instead of better and if those that are setting up the new tours can't see that, then they should go to specsavers :) lol

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posticon   Posted: 2006-12-18 18:33

Just for the record, I am not saying that everything is good here in Norway. We haven't had any high pricemoney and we are desperate after getting sponsors too....

However, we have just made a new system that we believe will generate more money to the top-players, and will also take care of the beginners and amateurs.

Regarding sponsors, we have just got a deal with a tv-company that guarantees us 5 hours of pool on tv next year. Not much, but much more than before!

These 5 hours will be used to broadcast 10 30-minutes slots of finals or semifinals from the Team Cup, the womens 8-ball final, and both the 8-ball and 9-ball National Championship, and will with this be spread out all the year.

Maybe this will make it easier to get in sponsors here. My point with mentioning this is that I think it is easier for a national federation to get such tv-deals compared to 5 different tours contacting a tv-station asking for the same.



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posticon   Posted: 2006-12-18 18:42

Again, I agree with your point whoeheartedly and also yet another reason, why I believe that the ONLY way to get the sport on to the track that it SHOULD have already been on by now :)

These independant tour operators, are understandably trying to offer more tournaments and more prize money, but they're only doing the sport more harm, than good slowly and surely, doing the opposite of what they have been trying to do :)

As far as I'm concerned, there are too many tours and they need to bunch together to be 1 major governing body and tour :), that will not only have events in ALL disciplines, but in ALL areas of the UK :) and the governing body that needs to be set up, should be done so, in a way, that there be different divisions of that governing body, where there's 1 division for Snooker and Billiards and the other for American Pool :)

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posticon   Posted: 2006-12-18 19:25

6 tours a year plus increased entries gets my vote, can we raise this at the next players council meeting???



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posticon   Posted: 2006-12-18 19:39

I agree with that one also Si.

It's about the only idea so far that makes sense.

Then I could fit in 6 euro's as well.

Perfect.

One other point is I love 9ball but do not really enjoy 8ball.

I believe if it wasn't for Mr T setting up the IPT, then the EPT in this country could possibly have been the "E9PT "

I'm only guessing here, any comments on that one Daryl?


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posticon   Posted: 2006-12-18 19:42

fair point shooter, Daryl?



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posticon   Posted: 2006-12-18 19:43

is the an agm with all the players were you thrash out new ideas? 6 events would increase prize fund and decrease travel expenses so a winner all round!



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posticon   Posted: 2006-12-18 19:44

but there was already a 9b yout in structue so why would daryl and mark done another? same as boyes and mark millsthe tour is 10b not 9b!



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posticon   Posted: 2006-12-18 19:48

If there's going to be a player's council, then every single player, who competes on the tour, should show up because when you have a player's council meeting and half the guys aren't there, you're wasting your time because they guys that are missing, will always be the ones who will be doing all the complaining about there being a lack of prize money :)

To me, it doesn't matter so much about the money because I'd much rather just shoot pool, but at the same time, there is a huge room for improvement in the UK Scene :)

I personally think that if the 3 major tours in the UK got together, BPPPA, EPT and APN, then it would be more than possible to have a better chance for sponsorship of the sport and have tournaments being held in hotels, etc :)

In the end of the days, it's up to the players to say what it is that they want and also up to the tour operators to decide on this :), no matter what, whether you're a player or a tour operator, all that we want is to increase the standard of play and have tournaments that will encourage the players to raise that standard themselves :)

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posticon   Posted: 2006-12-18 19:48

Si, did you get my PM


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posticon   Posted: 2006-12-18 19:53

Just looking at it now shooter...



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posticon   Posted: 2006-12-18 19:54

Hey Jonny :), how's it goin? :)

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posticon   Posted: 2006-12-18 20:06

Ok Willie.

How about U


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posticon   Posted: 2006-12-18 20:09

I'm getting there buddy :) lol

Have you uploaded or made any new videos on youtube yet? :), I was going to check out for new vids the other day, but never got round to it :)

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posticon   Posted: 2006-12-18 20:14

Not yet mate!

Still a bit stunned by mr Yow.

Gonna get a new book!

Watch this space!


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posticon   Posted: 2006-12-18 20:17

I don't blame ya on that, he really knows how to move the rock with style :), I will say though and I'm not kidding or boasting, but there are quite a few trickshots that I have played before some of which were played by the legendary Yoshikazu Kimura :)

Cool :), i'll look forward to checking them out when you get 'em done :)

Willie



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posticon   Posted: 2006-12-18 21:54

i really think the point about having new tours starting up is a good one, there will be more harm than good done to uk pool scene

maybe mark and karl can put their ten ball tour on hold right now and lets see if all us players can get stuck in and make a difference to get the bpppa to where it should be right now

i was going to do some events at mickeys this year but might be re-thinking about staging them, i for one would like to see 9ball tourneys with every top player at, competing at their best against each other

we all have good views about this and at the end of the day its the players that count, lets all speak up at the next tourney and see what can be done



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