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carl9ballcarl
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Posted: 2010-08-12 16:57
ene joy on a rating andy,am 186th on gb9,and 90th on challenge,and 50th on sappa,so obviously am not tht gud and only been bk playing a year r so,if this helps u ene,thnks carl smith
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Anything-with-a-cue
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Joined: 28-Nov-2008
Posts: 380
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Posted: 2010-08-12 17:05
carl if u get a handicap sorted in future will b interested in playing u,
richard main
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carl9ballcarl
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Posted: 2010-08-12 17:24
see what the ratings bring me richard,keeping my options open til then,thanks for the offer.
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Anything-with-a-cue
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Posted: 2010-08-12 17:34
ok m8
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RACKRUNNER21
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Joined: 19-Sep-2006
Posts: 862
From: Bristol
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Posted: 2010-08-12 17:37
On 2010-08-12 14:19 , dynamitedaz Wrote:!!! QUOTE !!! u have a potters chance 
ok looks like i cant get a game
unbelievable so many decent players on the list and am offering hugh handicaps making myself 2nd favourite and still no takers ..;-(
obviously i not going to play karl/chris/scott..
but anyone else am will to give between 4 -11 start race 21 ... my last offer  Can i ask Daz why wont you play Karl/Chris/Scott?is it because you are all backed by same person?
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dynamitedaz
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Posted: 2010-08-12 20:59
we go back so long and friends long time.. we all have different backers/managers etc. and we all come from 8ball and travel the worrld together.. theres a few more i wouldnt play also obviously shane/andy/then people like andy barnett/ben finch etc..
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LK
Just can't stay away
Joined: 13-Aug-2010
Posts: 128
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Posted: 2010-08-13 15:31
I'm new to this site and I have read through this thread from top to bottom, what I ant understand is why no one will play Darren Appleton when offering so much weight and odds.
The uk in my eyes is up there with the best of them for a pool playing nation, with lots of top players , Appleton, Boyes, Melling, peach, majid, Hundal, and lots more, but yet none of them will play each other ! Yet when you go to the phillys u see the likes of Reyes, busta, Gomez, Alex all going head to head ?
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Riggers
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Joined: 30-Mar-2006
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From: Barnsley (centre of the universe)
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Posted: 2010-08-13 16:07
That's a good point and one I've heard mentioned a few times. I was discussing the same thing with Andy last night and I wondered whether it is because the guys in the Phillys don't play for amounts large enough to hurt their wallets. Thinking about it £500 (the minimum stake) is not going to hurt Daz or Karl's wallet too much so why could they not get it on and let the public see a great match? Well it's probably just down to a different metality over here (and I mean different - not wrong). I think the thinking is that for these matches to really matter to the players the money has to be big enough and it has to hurt to lose or make a big difference to win. And when you get into that territory it gets difficult for very close friends, who support each other day in day out in the professional game, to go head to head against each other. Their heart would not be in it. I am, however, surprised that other top pros who, whilst friendly with each other or team mates from time to time are not very close friends, do not get more involved in money games. Daryl has always said he is not a money player. Most of the other are happy playing for cash but don't seem to want to play what they see as a 50/50 match (I'm not so sure about it being 50/50 myself). I think Imran has a point when he says he'll play if he gets a backer because of course it may be that his financial situation means it's not good to risk a lot of his own money. That's fair enough. I think it just came across as though he'll play anyone for any money and even give weight if someone else puts the money up, which sounds like he doesn't really cares about whether his backers are throwing money away. Not sure if it was meant like that but that's just how I read it. The best recipe for a money match is 2 players who each have a large camp of people supporting them who will get involved and therefore get the purse increased. This happened when Daz played Tommy a few years ago. Unfortunately I fear that currently few people would bet against Darren against any UK player in a big money match, which is why there's a bit of a stalemate. Maybe when the Mosconi visits the UK this will present the perfect opportunity for some of the Americans who don't usually like to travel to throw themselves in the ring. Shane being the obvious candidate. [ This message was edited by: Riggers on 2010-08-13 16:11 ]
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LK
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Posted: 2010-08-13 16:23
Great post lee !
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TheMaharaja
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Posted: 2010-08-13 16:43
Ofcourse i would try to win if someone else is backing me Lee because i would get a percentage if i won. Its money that i could potentially earn so i will try my best even giving or recieving weight.Sorry if my earlier post was misconstrued. I would give weight which maybe a little out of line just to get a game on just like Daz is doing, doesnt mean i am not going to try and win. As said before top uk players are not really accustomed to play for money where Daz is and has been from an early age dating from his english 8 ball days. This is probably why noone is accepting the challenge. Some top players just dont like playing for money and are great players i.e Souqet, Hohman,Peach. The standard of their game may drop by 1 or 2 balls because it is a different mind set and different pressure which they are just not used to, so they just wont entertain money games. Doesnt mean they dont have heart or are bad players. Going back to my statement before i would rather spend my money on more worthwhile causes such as trying to build more of a solid foundation for pool in the UK. Helping youngsters to play pool and providing pool tables and facilities for them under supervised conditions. This is what i have been doing in the Midlands in some socially dipriven areas and my project will hopefully spread throughout the country. In effect this could potentially raise the profile of our game and could in turn give us more chances to get sponsors or even government funding. The olympic commitee could even give us more recognition if they see more and more people playing it especially kids. This is what the EPBF and Dave Morris is also doing by creating the GBPA. I dont know if they have started but they also have the vision of putting pool tables in schools because they see the long and short term benefits which could help our sport in the UK. Good work Dave! The Maharaja............helping the youth get off the streets in the UK! [ This message was edited by: TheMaharaja on 2010-08-13 19:17 ]
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pottingmad
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Posted: 2010-08-13 17:31
lees not sayin you wouldnt try to win hes sayin ur willin to give likes of darren start if someone backs u.what he means ur willin to take a big risk with someone elses money but not ur own.
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Riggers
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Posted: 2010-08-13 17:43
Absolutely Shane. And yes Imran I agree with what you say. I was just trying to say how I thought your comment about playing if backed came across. I'm sure it's not just me who thought that.
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cusack_147
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Joined: 17-Mar-2006
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Posted: 2010-08-13 18:17
On 2010-08-13 17:43 , Riggers Wrote:!!! QUOTE !!! Absolutely Shane. And yes Imran I agree with what you say. I was just trying to say how I thought your comment about playing if backed came across. I'm sure it's not just me who thought that. Yeah it came across that way to me as well!
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Grim_Reaper
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Posted: 2010-08-13 18:21
On 2010-08-13 17:43 , Riggers Wrote:!!! QUOTE !!! Absolutely Shane. And yes Imran I agree with what you say. I was just trying to say how I thought your comment about playing if backed came across. I'm sure it's not just me who thought that. Imrans post came across to me as if he wasn't prepared to play unless he had a lock! IE no 50/50 games! Thats not gambling, if you want guaranteed money get a job LOL
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TeamHundal
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Joined: 04-Jun-2009
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Posted: 2010-08-13 18:37
Wow, what a thread!!! filled with players calling each other out, players backing down, all sorts names being called etc...even charity work got involved too all quite funny really as myself and Karl were just discussing the different topics and drama in one thread. Bottom line is Imran is not a money player and never has been and has made that clear to all here so you cannot knock him in a way as he's now telling the truth and won't play a 50/50 game or close too. The only real money players in the U.K who mix it up abroad are myself and Darren, Daz alot more than me as all he does is travel with pool. I have other commitments and priorities so don't find the time but i still love a money game and would play anyone in UK and Europe and many aorund the world as i have always said and there are many who would get weight too. In the UK there is also Richard Jones who plays a fair game and bets, myself and Daz give him a lot of respect for getting up and playing as he is within his rights to ask for some weight but wants to win the cash and the honours so plays even. (looking forward to our 2nd leg btw as it was also mentioned in this thread). Also from my conversations with Karl he will play anyone too, he said he'd love to play Imran or Tony Drago or maybe even myself oneday. All i know is myself and Daz bet our own when we play and others do bet on us too and we get a percentage when we win, but would never play out of line with someone elses money involved. I personally would play Daz as he knows but we haven't got around to arranging it yet, we were going to play along time ago and he said whats the point to me and i agreed whilst we were in Florida for the Dragon 10 ball event years ago. Then there were talks of us playing again this year and we were going to meet in Vegas and discuss plans but met up and never spoke about the match details and just said we would play each other whenever. I know Daz would play and he knows i would, maybe oneday we will arrange this game??? but i know we will both have t&c's to discuss. He likes call shot and diamond pool tables, i dont like call shot or diamond tables. He might like the tapped balls, i dont like them and want a triangle in play. If there is a game it will be discussed in person and not on a forum. Hope you all enjoy your weekend btw and i will see some of you in Finland and Manila in the very near future. Regards, Raj Hundal World Pool Masters Champion www.Rajhundal.com
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ArfanDad
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Joined: 27-May-2007
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Posted: 2010-08-13 19:11
On 2010-08-13 18:37 , TeamHundal Wrote:!!! QUOTE !!! Wow, what a thread!!! filled with players calling each other out, players backing down, all sorts names being called etc...even charity work got involved too all quite funny really as myself and Karl were just discussing the different topics and drama in one thread.
Bottom line is Imran is not a money player and never has been and has made that clear to all here so you cannot knock him in a way as he's now telling the truth and won't play a 50/50 game or close too. The only real money players in the U.K who mix it up abroad are myself and Darren, Daz alot more than me as all he does is travel with pool. I have other commitments and priorities so don't find the time but i still love a money game and would play anyone in UK and Europe and many aorund the world as i have always said and there are many who would get weight too.
In the UK there is also Richard Jones who plays a fair game and bets, myself and Daz give him a lot of respect for getting up and playing as he is within his rights to ask for some weight but wants to win the cash and the honours so plays even. (looking forward to our 2nd leg btw as it was also mentioned in this thread). Also from my conversations with Karl he will play anyone too, he said he'd love to play Imran or Tony Drago or maybe even myself oneday.
All i know is myself and Daz bet our own when we play and others do bet on us too and we get a percentage when we win, but would never play out of line with someone elses money involved.
I personally would play Daz as he knows but we haven't got around to arranging it yet, we were going to play along time ago and he said whats the point to me and i agreed whilst we were in Florida for the Dragon 10 ball event years ago. Then there were talks of us playing again this year and we were going to meet in Vegas and discuss plans but met up and never spoke about the match details and just said we would play each other whenever. I know Daz would play and he knows i would, maybe oneday we will arrange this game??? but i know we will both have t&c's to discuss. He likes call shot and diamond pool tables, i dont like call shot or diamond tables. He might like the tapped balls, i dont like them and want a triangle in play. If there is a game it will be discussed in person and not on a forum.
Hope you all enjoy your weekend btw and i will see some of you in Finland and Manila in the very near future.
Regards,
Raj Hundal
World Pool Masters Champion
www.Rajhundal.com Well said Raj, just one question. How come you don't like call shot? Surely this is better for both players as it takes a lot of luck out of the game. ----------------- Regards
Arfan Dad
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Twitter: @ArfanDad83
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dynamitedaz
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Posted: 2010-08-13 19:14
yep hope we can arrange something raj my match doesnt have to be on a diamond yes i like them but i prefer brunswicks as they are the best tables. i dont like tapped tables for money matches like u said we can discuss in near future
also lk agree the filipinos play against eachother all time and some americans but these filipinos play for big money i mean big money all the time but they all have backers for example orcullo won 50k us doolars of pagaluyan overr past week and they going to play again for sure prob double the amount.. good thing here in manila you can get small games average games and big games ..
its a shame the top players dont play eachoither in uk like 500 a man 1k a man that way it keeps it friendly but competitive and of course i would play anyone but it seems in uk it not the right thing to do lol..
like lee said the mentality different in uk to asia and america..esp asia
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TheMaharaja
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Posted: 2010-08-13 19:26
Yeah sorry Lee and others if my earlier posts were misunderstood. Maybe i need some English lessons lol! I wouldnt say its just the Uk players Daz that dont have the gambling mentality, i feel its the general consensus in most European countries who play pool. I maybe know a handful of players in the whole of Europe who play for decent money. Its usually a case of if you are a good money player you are not so good at tournaments or vice versa. Some gifted few are good at both but usually its one or the other eg: Yang Chin Shun is rated as the best money player in the world but cant win a tournament in his local club lol!! On the other hand prolific tournament winners such as Souqet and Immonen win every tournament under the sun but dont play so good for money. We are more accustomed to playing tournaments here in Europe because thats how we've been brought up with the game. Thats probably why we are dominating the world tournament scene at the moment or atleast doing very good. A good example of this is if we look at the current Eurotour rankings. Out of the top 5 players 4 of us are Brits and coincidently none of us are established money players or have played for real big money. Arfan i can probably answer your question to Raj's condition of play about the call shot rule. Yes it takes away the luck factor but it also takes away the skill factor of playing two way and three way shots. This is why Filipinos dont like the call shot rule because they like to be alot more creative with their game by playing multi-purpose shots. For example if playing the call shot rule you couldnt call: Make the 5 ball in the corner pocket but if i miss i will come off 3 rails glance the 7 and maybe make the 8 in the opposite corner pocket at the same time have shape on the 6. This is a kind of shot that Efren would play because he knows how to get lucky off a shot. He absolutely hates the call shot rule i know that for a fact. [ This message was edited by: TheMaharaja on 2010-08-14 13:29 ]
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9balldog
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Posted: 2010-08-14 12:06
keep viewing all players on list will be given a 12-5 rating for are new exciting 4 competion mini series filmed live by cue sport tv all comps are one day events subject to entry if your not on list you cannot enter theese comps,this system gives the grass roots player a realistic chance to be a winner dont miss out dates to be announced shortly
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DEMON
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Posted: 2010-08-14 14:23
wow, i think this is the first time all the big guns are talking the game
i have tried to organise tournaments and cash games, but the formats were not accepted.
i think we need to take advantage of this time, all the big guns wana play...This is high profile stuff..come on guys get involved...
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