9-Ball
Topic: Money Match TV Saturday 25th August 2012

Me and panther are right !!!!!

The great I don't need to practice I'll practice when I have to !!!

Andy maybe if u took constructive critisasm better rather than jumping on the defensive things would improve !! Personally I no for a fact if I run a mmtv event one month I could double the crowds and the thing that's most appealing to u (the money over the bar) by adding a little effort in certain areas, yes it's a good day nobody is disputing that but it could be alot better !!

Quags - lol

Ps - I'm not getting into a day of banter today just simply not got time as rushed off my feet !! So have a nice day u lovely people xx

There is a very very simple solution to dealing with the handicaps. PRACTISE AND GET BETTER!

I bet Melling, Appleton, Uzzell, Valentine etc reached the upper echelons of pool not by being gifted handicaps but by getting some right pastings when starting out, hating losing and wanting to improve their game to be better players.

"But we haven't got the time to practise to become better". There are lots of things you can do while not on the table to help you when on it. Visualisation is a very strong tool and granted it doesn't help physically - after all, you still have to use your arm to shoot - but it can speed up certain things like pattern play, seeing lines for kicking and can even improve banking. Seeing yourself doing something before doing it breeds confidence and you can play better as a result...

LOL craig i dont think you could run 1 more to it than you realise no point in replying to you to be honest nowt registers so its last time i will.

Andy your missing the point again mate this isn't a go at u or at mmtv as I already said u do a good job !!

This is just me stating facts regarding American pool in England !! IT'S DEAD !! And will be untill someone sorts it out

Craig must know what he's talking about when it comes to running events. His last effort was setting up the GB9 Darts comp - can't remember when the first event was..... that might be because there wasn't one lol.

Why are you here anyway Craig? Shouldn't you be on the blackball site, wherever that is?

On 2012-08-02 08:43 , Riggers Wrote:

Yeah cos we had loads of backing off u bunch of nerds didn't we

On 2012-08-02 08:52 , Riggers Wrote:


I'm here stating facts about the way pool is cos I'm concerned.

I no for a fact if I said to u riggers can I play the next event u would say yes !!!
Where as a couple of year bak if I asked the same question I would have got "I'll add u to the reserve list as the events full and we can't guarentee u getting a spot cos there's a fair few on it before u"

So don't h come sticking your beak in cos all I'm doing is stating the obvious and trying to get to the bottom of why it's happening

On 2012-08-02 00:24 , gazhopkins10 Wrote:

Think your right there for once Gaz

Decent entry fee, fair handicaps = good tournament for all.

Just so happens all Andys comps at minute are on days where I cant go

Craig I don't think its what you are saying it but how you are saying it that is grating people up the wrong way.

The issues of getting added prize money tournaments (that Panther mentioned) just isn't all that feasible. The best chance of getting an added money tournament on a national scale comes from Rileys, but they seem to have their priorities elsewhere.

I really do wonder if cuesports got into the Olympics would everybody change their mindsets, and dedicate themselves to it the way that rowers, canoeists, runners etc do in their disciplines?

Back on mmtv have any challenges been made yet or is it just the usual people trying to pull a fast one not mentioning no names (quags, Simpson)

On 2012-08-02 08:56 , Machine1 Wrote:
Yes you did have backing from us in terms of making it possible to stage it during one of our events. Our only stipulation was you organise it, finance it, get the entries etc. This is what Andy does for MMTV all the time and what many other good organisors do like Phil Wildman etc.

I was just making the point that you say you could run an event but the only times you've tried they've been failures. The Barnsley league was another example, which I'm sure George could tell us all about. All you seem to be good at is spouting off on here and criticising.

If you want change to happen you need as a minimum to make sensible constructive comments or better still would be to roll your sleeves up and actually do something useful for the pool world. You are not capable of either of these things, which is why this discussion is pointless and why I won't waste my breath or my typing fingers any further on this matter.

Now can we get back on topic and see who challenges who at the next MMTV?

Garbage riggers I'm not criticizing anything I'm just stating facts about the situation American pool is at at the min!!
I hope it gets back to the place where it was at 2/3 year ago as I'd like to think I would play again but at the min there's NOTHING that has any interest to me

Visualisation?? What the the devils playground you going on about baz? You could see round corners with those glasses so a ball on table on table hitting rubber shouldn't need too much thought. This isn't of any relevance or use on this forum, not unlike yourself. Leave the posting to people who know what they're talking about. If I put a rhetorical question on pro9 you'd still come on and try and answer it!!

Good afternoon thedrycow, I hope your not insinuating bazza lad doesn't know what he is on about !!!!

Heard more sense out of people who are mute!

On 2012-08-02 10:53 , Machine1 Wrote:

Something that actually made me laugh, well done. I would like to know how i may be on the rob though if you would care to elaborate on this? You dont know me, have never seen me play so how can you possibly make this assumption?

I dont know all the guys on this forum as im fairly new to 9ball, so i ask Mark, Sam etc if the challenges im looking at laying down are fair ones. Ive actually been told by Del Sim that id do well to beat Ian McCormick, but id still be happy to play as i want to get involved in MMTV instead of being a spectator/commentator. I have also been told that Dave Hancock would be a decent game for me as he is also a genuine cat 5. I havent been on before, and new faces are something which are needed in the sport (if the sport is to get back to where you would like it to be), but how is this going to happen if you are rubbishing mine and others attempts to actually get involved as robbery?

Not usually a fan of ranting either, jeez im glad thats over


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Quagmire is GOD

What does del sim know apart from how to creat meaningless posts lol

On 2012-08-01 20:38 , ThePotter Wrote:

Lol, gone are the days of me swinging my thingy in public due to old age and no practice so I will decline but thank you for the offer. I would still play for a hefty chunk one Thursday if I get some notice so I can get 4 seconds on a table before hand though, Macca.

If any of you can be bothered reading........

Not to stir anymore up here but for me somethings need to be pointed out to folk. I have been actively involved in 9 ball since 1996. Has there been an exponential increase in the popularity of the game since then? No. Has there been several HUGE improvements to the game since then? Yes. Where we were in 1996 and where we are now is like chalk and cheese. I was running weekly tournaments 10 years ago and more with 30 entrants a week. Things smoothed off in the summer as it always does, picked up in the autumn and winter.....it always does. I never really got higher numbers unless we did something that gave the bigger players some value, which of course is fair enough.

I have described 9 ball as a game. Is it a sport? Why do so many top players describe it as a game? So Sport or Game? I am undecided and have been for many years and without naming the various World Champions I have discussed this with, the majority go with 'game'.

Our top players are not openly recognised in the streets for more reasons than just the lack of million dollar pay packets. Daz however, is mobbed in Asia and is rightly treated like a super star over there. Would that be the same if Efren and Busty hadn't dominated the world for so long when they did after having a 100 Million fillipino fan base? Probably not but with 100 Million filipinos watching, Chinese Taipei and now China involved....watch the game (sport?) go stratospheric over there.

It can't be repeated here. Its a blue collar game and no matter what is done, this will be the case forever. Anyone expecting dramatic linear increases in conditions, prize money and coverage is going to be sadly dissapointed. That graph is completely unfeasible. The game ebbs and flows in popularity and participation. There is no backwards step, just up and down. Along the way we make little improvements. The GB9 Ball Tour is finely tuned, super improved iteration of the first tour in the UK for example. The 1900s saw cue sports on par with other major sporting events. It lost some momentum during WWII obviously and then hugely picked up in the 50s. It dropped off again and the next big rise wasn't until the 80s when the Color of Money was released. Then a huge number of pool halls (that has shut down in the 60s and 70s) were re-opened. Although, the great Steve Mizerak did the famous Miller Lite commercial but that was the exception over the rule.

Some of us are here for the long haul, others are here to have a taste, slurp what they can out of the game and vanish into obscurity (or back to English 8 Ball, hahahahahaha...sorry couldn't resist). Those days of us getting two cars and doing 300 - 400 mile round trips for DAY tournaments are over. Everyone can get some local action somewhere, more comps about than ever. Just no need to travel too far from home.

So, let's try and stay positive chaps. Rome wasn't built in a day, it takes time and very good people to get up and do something. There are a lot of good people in the UK.

Just one last thing though.......please, please, please don't turn this into an English 8 Ball site We have a great resource here, use it well. Good, constructive critisism should be welcomed and openly encouraged. However, whinging, whining old ladies can simply s.uck my balls.

Yours sincerely

Si

A fair bit of copy and pasting there but a fair few valid points of your own Simon

This site is worse than uk8ball at times if not all the time !!!
Infact am done with it
Chow