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contrakid
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Posted: 2009-03-17 15:36
Anyone have any idea or past experience what Import Duty and tax i would pay on a cue from the States?
Would i pay Import Duty plus VAT or just Import Duty.
Everything i read seems to say a different amount from 9% - 30%!
Cheers all
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MummyGoose
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Posted: 2009-03-17 15:46
I get quite a lot from the US and you have to pay the VAT on the DECLARED value of the goods. It's up to the supplier how much they declare the contents are worth  On top of this, if it comes in via parcel force, they make you pay before they deliver. They also add a £10 "handling charge"!
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Snapool
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Posted: 2009-03-17 16:02
Dont get me started on this mate. Its happened to me a few time and its a con. what they do is in fact against the law but a loop hole in the 2002 postal act means they get away with it. Pm me if you want to know how you could possibly get round the handling charge.
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Darkside
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Posted: 2009-03-17 16:08
Call D H L....london heathrow depot.......
Darkside......Globe Trotter..
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contrakid
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Posted: 2009-03-17 16:17
Well its in post already so out of my control i suppose.
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CuesportTV
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Posted: 2009-03-17 21:46
Simon, the other post is correct, you pay VAT on the declared value of an item. On top of this there is no 'Duty' as such (as far as I am aware) however, companies like UPS/DHL will clear through customs and then you are liable for the clearance charge plus VAT on top of this.
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Danny
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Posted: 2009-03-17 22:25
Oh dear.. Parcel Force, where to start with their trickery and thievery!
I've had loads of items come from the States, anything sent out of the states using the USPS, will eventually end up in Parcel Forces hands.
They are being paid by the USPS to deliver the goods. Yet they don't deliver, they hold it and then charge you a random fee for the pleasure.
THIS HAS TO BE ILLEGAL?!!
I say random because... I've had items valued at £50 get a handling fee of £15 from Parcel Force, and then some higher priced and sometimes higher in size items only got an £8 handling fee. And vice versa.
What I don't understand is, how delivery companies, the majority if not all, get away with the following:
1. Saying they tried to deliver but obviously didn't as you sat by the front door all day waiting.
2. Trying to deliver with no avail and then not leaving a card.
3. Not attempting to deliver then lying about leaving a card as if the card fairy must have taken it away.
4. Not asking for some ID or just asking the person opening the door for their surname (instead of saying "hi, mr blahblah?). As drivers OFTEN take things to the wrong address, and this would stop the mix up.
Why has watchdog not picked up on this, you only have to search google to find hundreds of thousands of pages in forums all complaining about the exact same problems.
Some strict rules and regulations need to be brought in soon.
Rant over!
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Danny
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Posted: 2009-03-17 22:27
I forgot to mention also, why the the devils playground do these couriers and delivery companies have online tracking, if they aren't going to update the progress regularly.
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contrakid
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Posted: 2009-03-18 09:39
OMG fingers crossed and praying every night before bed.
Pleease don't let me down mr courier.
Contrakid.... wondering why he didn't just buy a D'vali special!
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Snapool
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Posted: 2009-03-18 10:17
I have looked into this a bit and will try to explain what I found out. There is no doubt that the duty has to be paid. Parcel force pay this for you. You have no choice over this. They then put there own handling charge on top basicly charging you for a service you have not asked for. The postal act says that parcel force or any other company are not allowed to hold any parcel / letter to randsom which is what they are doing. how ever they do have the right to claim back the duty which they have allready paid. but again they cnnnot hold your parcel to randsom. So this is a tricky situation. if you were to go into parcel force were they have your item hand over your letter they will go and find your parcel you then have every right to take the parcel from them as it is yours and the postage has been paid by you allready. If you can actually get ya hands on it before you pay . you simply say to them thank you and the duty owed is now a cival matter. They would have to take you to the cival court to claim the duty back from you which would cost them more than the duty owed. 1 of my best mate is a CID copper he told me if they called the police out they would simply tell parcel force to take you to court as you would not have commited a crime. Dont take my word on this it is only my take on how you could get round this con. based on what I have read in the postal act. [ This message was edited by: Snapool on 2009-03-18 10:22 ]
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MachineGun
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Posted: 2009-03-18 12:41
I bought my cue from outside the UK and had to pay about £40 import duty on it.
I hope Snapool is right, but I can't see them handing the parcel over until the duty is paid, whether they're legally allowed to or not.
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Snapool
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Posted: 2009-03-18 12:56
They may put it on the counter while they get the little card machine out. if they do just pick it up and walk out. or you could try asking if you can check it for damage before you pay then do the same take it and walk out. Failing that if its a cue you have bought pay the duty then un pack it and use the heavy end to batter the bloke who just robbed you of your money
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thediamond
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Posted: 2009-03-18 13:06
Pick it up and walk out?? I have never heard so much craziness in my whole life. I have probably paid more import duty than everyone on this site put together (anybody want to contest that?) and here are my experiences on the subject...... Parcelforce will not take you to court but a sub-contractor will. They pay several law firms to do the donkey work for them. Letters and demands finally resulting in civil action for non payment. If you think a civil matter isn't serious then think again. Just pay the money like you are supposed to do and accept that the UK has a high tax rate. If you can't accept that, then don't buy goods from overseas. So when you go and buy a new car or try and get a mortgage, the last thing you want to hear is that you have a poor credit rating and have been black listed for non-payment of £40 to the Crown for a cue delivery. That wouldn't be fun, would it? Pay it, accept it or go live in Switzerland. [ This message was edited by: thediamond on 2009-03-18 13:28 ]
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contrakid
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Posted: 2009-03-18 13:27
Well i did think i would have to pay around £50-£100 VAT but not a Parcelforce clearance charge as i have already paid for delivery.
I may go armed with a bill for pickup as they have not delivered it to my place of residence!
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Snapool
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Posted: 2009-03-18 14:11
On 2009-03-18 13:06 , thediamond Wrote:!!! QUOTE !!! Pick it up and walk out?? I have never heard so much craziness in my whole life.
I have probably paid more import duty than everyone on this site put together (anybody want to contest that?) and here are my experiences on the subject......
Parcelforce will not take you to court but a sub-contractor will. They pay several law firms to do the donkey work for them. Letters and demands finally resulting in civil action for non payment. If you think a civil matter isn't serious then think again. Just pay the money like you are supposed to do and accept that the UK has a high tax rate. If you can't accept that, then don't buy goods from overseas.
So when you go and buy a new car or try and get a mortgage, the last thing you want to hear is that you have a poor credit rating and have been black listed for non-payment of £40 to the Crown for a cue delivery. That wouldn't be fun, would it?
Pay it, accept it or go live in Switzerland. Like I said it only my take on what I have read in the postal act. the act clearly says that they canot hold any parcel to Randsom which is what they are doing. I got hit for this charge a couple of times and contacted the people I bought my cue from in america and they said they were unaware of any extra costs that parcel force add on or the duty. I suggested to them that they should let customers no about this charge. But why would they it would just put you off buying it from them. Unfortunatly your right we do have to just exept it. cos like I said they use the loop hole to there advantage and have you over a barrel. The bit that makes it worse is there handling chrage for a service you never asked for that is is just criminal.
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Deano
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Posted: 2009-03-18 14:33
I think I'm correct in saying you dont pay duty on cues anyway, you get charged VAT but thats it....
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Snapool
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Posted: 2009-03-18 15:29
Its definatly duty and handling charge. I think im right in saying anything that comes into the country has to have customs duty paid on it before customs will release it. I know they also have the wright to open any parcel that they think has had the wrong value put on it. So if the suplier says your cue is only worth $5 and customs suspect its woth more they can open it . not sure what happens then. Id like to think not but it may get destroyed or sent back in which case you would have to pay again to have it shipped back to you.
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Deano
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Posted: 2009-03-18 18:51
Pal i called them today because I'm having some cues made in the US and they told me there will be no duty to pay just VAT...
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rogerh
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Posted: 2009-03-19 10:54
I PAYED £36.00 ON A £270.00 CUE AND CASE
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Darkside
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Posted: 2009-03-19 11:20
I payed £1758 for my vegus flight return,will pick up new sticks when im out there no duty n vat then...  Darkside....loves the wags on all tours.
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