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Topic: Another UK pool website...

Sorry Dave. Just makes my blood boil thats all.

This is the gist of what I posted on the other site which has now been totally removed.

"I am very disappointed with the Professors posts on this forum with regards to a certain pool site/tour and the person involved with it. This person has worked very hard to get the Tour in question running and the comments made were disrespectful to him and the Tour.

In fact the comments that have been made are both slanderous and libellous and the reply of “Sue me you Scum” is something I would expect of a child not an adult.

Whatever the history and feeling is between the person and yourself you should not be writing abusive comments on the forum for all to see.

As the moderator for the site it is your responsibility to uphold the rules which means it is important that you should comply with them as well.

The other site which contains a 9 in the title promotes 8 ball, both English and American as well as other forms of pool. But it seems that on this site it is forbidden to talk about other disciplines.

Under freedom of speech everyone is entitled to air their opinion within reason, however it seems that you are not able to see that on this occasion you are wrong about the person and the Tour involved. A testament to which is the number of “World Class” players already on the Tour and looking to play next year.

Whether I get banned from this site or not doesn’t bother me, but you need to take a look at yourself and your actions as they have been both unfair and unjust."

And as you can see it was written in a professional manner with no swearing/malice or attempt to belittle anyone.


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Multiple winner of the Solihull Wednesday knockout competition.

On 2008-04-18 13:49 , Doyley Wrote:

Childish behaviour?? Can't you see how that comment might possibly be construed as misplaced. Who are you anyhow? You use the first and third person in your post. What is your connection with the site in question?

If you can't see how it was childish then it proves that I am correct.

I am the technician and a moderator from that site.

On 2008-04-18 16:13 , Doyley Wrote:

By saying it is his site and he can do what he wants you are simply not addressing the matter. The rules are there for all and he is breaking them by resorting to slanderous and malicious comments which should not be tolerated.

Imagine what the world would be like if we all had the view that it's mine I can do what i like. The point we are tryng to make is that the original comments by Professor against Riggers honest reply were totally out of order. And he has continued to make inappropriate comments that could get him and other site moderators into serious trouble.

An apology for inappropriate comments would have been enough to put out this fire, but instead he chose to continue to make obscene and slanderous comments. It's gone too far for it to be a case of if we don't like it just dont use the site.

Imagine if you'd put a lot of time and effort at your own cost into something for someone to make slanderous comments about. In fact it's not just Riggers that has been putting in the work on the Tour others have too.

The Professor seems to be trying to put all the blame for this arguement towards the Pro9 players but he's not even admitting that he could be at fault. there's such a thing as being a descent human being. BigDave has had to comment on my post today but he did it in a manner of descency and at no point did he use expletives or insinuate that I am a drug user as the Professor did. Sort him out before he causes your site problems.


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Multiple winner of the Solihull Wednesday knockout competition.

Prof has always been the same way and it is the biggest pool website in Europe and it grows every day. Figures don't lie so he must be doing something right.

That's ok then Doyley but if you're not careful Sponsors will start pulling the plug because they don't want to associated with the insulting remarks he makes. Then you won't have any income to pay for the libel suits.

Sponsors love it, it keeps people coming back and seeing their adverts

On 2008-04-18 16:30 , Doyley Wrote:

All it takes is one person to take offence to him and he could be severley reprimanded for it. Imagine seeing an article in a pool/snooker mag saying UK8 ball site sued for slanderous & libellous comments. What a great advert that would be (NOT). Just because he does some stuff right does not allow him to continue to be rude and discurteous. and just because he's always been that way does not make it right.

My Uncle was always a drinker and eventually he died of liver and stomach failure due to drinking, so for him "always being a drinker" was not a good reason for him to continue. One day the Prof may say or do something to the wrong person. so isn't it better to tackle the issue now before his comments get out of hand.


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Multiple winner of the Solihull Wednesday knockout competition.

It seems rather sad that nobody wants to admit fault on your side of the fence and you'd rather continue argueing with pathetic excuses for the Professor.

Have you have any idea how hard it is to sue somebody for something posted on a discussion board?
I would even go as far as to say that you wouldn't be able to find an example of a successful case.

Tell a lie, I found a few but they were much more severe.
All that will happen is that he may be asked to remove the comment and get the site loads of publicity in the process.

I've been banned for the following post, in which I didn't think I'd breached the rules:

'I really don't think the GB9 Tour need to advertise any further given that the tour is completely full....That's the job that has already been done - and done well it seems given that there is a reserve list for next year!

Given the hard work and effort that has been put in, I think it's quite offensive to the tour managers/promoters etc. to make the assumption that such a respectable, high profile tour would attempt to be 'plugged' on another website where (I assume) the majority of members don't even play 9ball'.

I'm sick of reading offensive comments on this site....

...and I hope that's not a cue for 'well **** off then and don't come back' - because I do enjoy the majority of my time spent here!

I got a really pleasant message back:

On 2008-04-18 11:04 , SupaCues Wrote:!!! QUOTE !!!

I'm sick of reading offensive comments on this site....

'****** off then you (can imagine what) and stop wasting my time'

Doyley - as the UK8ball.com site moderator, do me a favour please and let me know why I've been banned?

I'm just wondering what will happen if people are put off from joining the tour next season because of the comments from 'professor' pool. This might be a one off but then he might continue his rant throughout the year.

Obviously the tour will suffer which will cause the tour and players to be out of pocket.

Doyley, not having a go but if financial and business loss is a result of forum posts / comments / publications made by an individual then it won't simply be a case of 'removing the comment' if it went to court.

From my understanding, if you have a business or organisation and someone publically questions the integrity of the business or organisation then sueing that person will stand up in court.

On 2008-04-18 16:55 , Doyley Wrote:

Again you still seem to be condoning his behaviour rather than saying that he was in the wrong and he will be notified etc. It's like the word sorry is not part of either of your vocabulary. At the end of the day any action taken will be as a direct result of his inability to admit he's wrong and post an apology for the comments. Whether a law suit is successful or not imagine the time that will have to be taken and the cost to both parties to get solicitors/lawyers involved. And are u not at all worried about the fact that one day The Professor will say something to someone who rather than post a few responses may take other more drastic and possibly physical matters. You may also like to take note that at no point has anyone using this or any other site made a comment about the uk8 ball site. We're all promoting the same sport and it would be better if it could be done together. We should be allies not enemies. This crazy situation has been made far worse than it ever should have been by the comments made by the Professor. I'm not saying that any of the rest of us haven't made things worse (I know my comments this morning were childish) but The Professor did start this off with some very unfair comments. At the end of the day I personally will not back down from something I believe in as i take pride in everything i do and uphold everything i say (unless proved categorically wrong!!).


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Maximumbreak, I never banned you so I don't know. It would be speculation if I commented and I don't like speculating.

Machinegun, you would have to prove that what Prof said directly caused the tour to loose players. If I played on the tour and didn't like it and made that comment to a friend and he didn't join because of this would you sue me? I am not saying there is anything wrong with the tour, I don't know, I have never played on it.

christ147, what prof says is up to him and I'm sure he knows the possible outcomes of whatever he says.

I did say I do not wish to comment further since I do not want to prejudice any legal action that may be pending however I do feel this needs to be said...

Since the waive of opinion against him in the thread I started he has begun to try and discretely defend himself by making up stories about me i.e. saying that I'm always breaking their rules and blatently advertising on their site. This is simply not true. I may have responded to a posters question by mentioning GB9 because it was relevant to the topic, after all it's pretty difficult on a pool related website not to mention any pool tour, event, tournament, pool related publication etc.

I have no need to advertise the tour on their site. After all we are covered by Snooker Scene, Cuesport, Inside Pool, Billards Digest, Pro9, AZ Billards and we've even had links posted on BBC Sport!

I somehow think our tour can get by without advertising there, in fact some time ago I took the decision not to send our press releases there or post formal advertisements there or anything in the name of GB9 since I do not want our tour associated with a site that behaves like they do in public. It's simply not the image we wish to convey.

Somebody e-mail Rileys and make them aware of the kind of people and website they are associating their company with.

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how old is the silly ****? anybody else met him?

ps.. my quote in last post does not exist! i was just trying to make a point of how hypocritical he is.

It's a shame that the pool site needs to do this as a marketing technique. I had a run-in myself years ago, they do get abusive if you upset the status-quo. It is a bad example to set to be abusive to anyone, in any situation online or offline. It just downmarkets uk8 and makes it more loutish. But that's up to them. I'd rather play pool than argue about it anyway.