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dynamitedaz
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posticon   Posted: 2008-06-09 14:33

philippines play against eachother all time and there friends,americans too...

yeah we get on well but that doesnt mean we cant play for doe..

but it probably not happen.

plus he supposed to be playing karl so see what happens with that as karl wants the game more than me and dpont want to stand on his shoes.



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posticon   Posted: 2008-06-09 15:00

I think money matches are an integral part of pool, I can understand where the dazzler is coming from but i think for many players it is a chance to earn income from the game as there isnt enough to be won purely from prize money.

For other players as well money matches gives players the chance to replicate the pressures and tension of tournament play within a club/practice environment. When you practice if you dont play for money there is absolutely no pressure on and in many respects the practice is pointless. In tournament play there is a certain amount of pressure, nerves and andreniline to deal with that can only be replicated in practice when something is put on the line e.g. money.

Also Raj mentioned Bustamante as the greatest breaker in the world and i agree with him, but wasnt Buste using the softest of soft breaks in the Worlds this year?? Like BigDave said you need to adapt to the conditions and equipment.



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posticon   Posted: 2008-06-09 15:03

Dazzler mentioned Tony D playing for money. I asked him why he didn't play a money match when Daz played Tommy. Tony said he 'didn't need to'

I got the impression he wasn't interested in money matches in the slightest. He has won £1,000,000 from snooker in his career. And now he's doing well with his pool, some big wins including the 10 ball championship.

Back to Imran and Raj. Why would they play, when they are best mates? Not sure about everyone else, but would you fancy taking £5,000 off your mate and then saying, 'Oh I'll get these beers in!' Yeah mate, no worries, it's ONLY money!!

It will never happen but it's great fun talking about it!! ;-)
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posticon   Posted: 2008-06-09 15:24

it funny you should say that expertfluke because tony asked me for a game that same night......

the offer was american 8ball same venue.... i replied il play if we play on IPT equipment but i wouldnt be interested on this equipment.......



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posticon   Posted: 2008-06-09 15:40

Maybe I put the thought into his head then Machine!!! :-D



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posticon   Posted: 2008-06-09 15:45

ROLL ON AUSTRIA...............................................

looks like there will be plenty to talk about
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posticon   Posted: 2008-06-09 17:00

tonys played some games for money...

he might won a million playing snooker over 20 years but he certainly isnt a millionaire..

but its each to there own...

i dont think raj and imran are best mates yes they get on ok but best mates little strong i think..

plus if they did play it wouldnt be all there own money anyway

dyno...... loving this thread



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posticon   Posted: 2008-06-09 18:32

im in wakey most days 50 a set ill be there



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posticon   Posted: 2008-06-09 18:55

I agree with Raj on one thing which is that the cut break is something that should be taken out of the american game. It's an easy enough game as it is and it's being made easier.

However, who else on here thinks that Raj comes across very big headed and full of himself in that interview? I don't know him personally so i can't comment but if i was to judge him from that interview alone, then he's very big headed and i'd say it's just a case of sour grapes.

He's just dissed every aspect of Imran's game and has given absolutely no credit to him whatsoever for what he's achieved. Tapped tables or not, 3 on the trot is a great achievement.


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posticon   Posted: 2008-06-09 19:17

Wow, Arfan.....win a tiny event and 9 Ball is easy all of a sudden. Not like you pal.



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posticon   Posted: 2008-06-09 19:35

Ofcourse its sour grapes noone has mentioned the fact that Imran was 6-0 down in the recent final against Raj.Thats a massive hill to climb alternate break. No disrespect to Rajs game but if your 6-0 up and your oponent wins alternate break you must have done something very wrong.He doesnt do anything better than Imran in my opinion and in most peoples opinion except blow his trumpet. Imran has always dominated in England together with Daryl and they are a class above everyone else in the UK theyre results prove it.



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posticon   Posted: 2008-06-09 19:48

4-5 years ago I posted on this very forum that the game of 9 ball is turning into a joke and that a 10th ball should be added to make it harder for the breaker to sink a ball and I was shot down in flames for even thinking of such an idea!!!

Diamondo will vouch for this.



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posticon   Posted: 2008-06-09 19:56

my question would be for maybe an old timer to answer would be........ did they have these conversations 20years ago..... how as the game become this way?.... was it always this way? as the standard of player made the game seem easier etc etc..... whats other players opinions?....



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posticon   Posted: 2008-06-09 19:57

Loud and clear pal, I remember it well. Although due to the fact that I break like a small, weak child, the Tour is called GB9 and not GB10 lolololol!!!!!!



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posticon   Posted: 2008-06-09 20:04

ob-1 u well pal



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posticon   Posted: 2008-06-09 20:05

I think the cloth has changed the game completley.

Jim Rempe said in an interview that when they agreed to start using Simonis 860 cloth which was intended for Billiards and not Pool it changed the game overnight. Back in the 70's when they played on napped cloth he said you had to have a powerful stroke to move the cueball 3 rails. You don't really need to hit the ball hard nowadays



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posticon   Posted: 2008-06-09 20:13

hence the sigel/trudeu ipt thoughts.... i was also chatting to thomas engert in reno and he reiterated exactly what you say about rempes views....



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posticon   Posted: 2008-06-09 20:33

On 2008-06-09 12:14 , dynamitedaz Wrote:

!!! QUOTE !!!

On 2008-06-09 05:58 , Str0ker Wrote:

!!! QUOTE !!!

On 2008-06-08 18:39 , machinehill Wrote:

!!! QUOTE !!!

my top 5 achievements by a uk player......

1. daryl peach(world champion)
2. darren Appleton (5th US Open
3. Karl Boyes (3rd W.P.C)
4. Raj Hundal (World Masters)
5. Steve Knight (W.P.League).....

if i missed anything feel free to let me know.....


no. 2 and no. 3??? are you mental?? you honestly think the 2nd and 3rd greatest achievements by any english player in pool are 2 guys NOT winning tournaments???

seriously, i know they're your mates and all that but you're just being silly....


you got take into consideration eric

raj won world masters with 16 players and got $20,000
steve knight won world pool league with 7 players maybe got $20,000 tops

karl finished 3rd in world championship first attempt only been playing a year at the time and got $20,000

someone said to me 3rd in worlds or world masters champion id prob just go for world masters only because its a title,but as a achievment they all have arguements.

us open probably the strongest field event in the world with 400ish entries on proper pool equipment getting 5th at the time i was dissapointed but looking back 2006 new to the game ,i didnt do bad!

in my opinion its tougher to get in top 8 in us open and top 4 in world championship than it is to win world masters or world pool league

3 reason
got to play more matches
and the fields are tougher
06 us open tight bags and it was break box no tapped tables.

so am just saying as achievement there not much in it, slightly favour micks view.

but to me its all about winning so id pick the titles esp world masters.
:-)


apps it was str0ker what put that matey not me

to get 5th place in us open is a great achievement with the strength of the field,that stroker kid pal hes not well

2 sugars :D


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posticon   Posted: 2008-06-09 21:04

On 2008-06-09 20:05 , Cue_Of_Thunder Wrote:

!!! QUOTE !!!

I think the cloth has changed the game completley.

Jim Rempe said in an interview that when they agreed to start using Simonis 860 cloth which was intended for Billiards and not Pool it changed the game overnight. Back in the 70's when they played on napped cloth he said you had to have a powerful stroke to move the cueball 3 rails. You don't really need to hit the ball hard nowadays


Come and play on the tables in my local Riley's - the shagpile carpet would take the King right back to the 70s. The lag on those tables would more than likely go 4 rails on the Eurotour. It's an interesting transition to attempt.



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posticon   Posted: 2008-06-09 23:06

ob1 not well.dog
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